LVDVS DOMESTICVS: '03-'04.
Third Experience - Homework 18+19
§ Latin quotes taken at random from authors of all periods help us especially with the new matter on 'subjunctive times'.
§ in his history-famous first speech-attack against Lucius Catilina MARCVS TVLLIVS CICERO [106-43 ante Chr.] reveals the discovery of the plot against the government by asking:
- What is the fixed system called which regulates the choice-use of Subjunctive times in dependent sentences?
On what does the choice of subjunctive times NOT depend?
What two reasons did we give that this matter is so important for Latinists?
"Quid proxima quid superiore nocte egeris, ubi fueris, quos convocaveris, quid consili ceperis - quem nostrum ignorare arbitraris? O tempora O mores! Senatus haec intellegit, consul videt; hic tamen vivit" [Cat.I,1].
VOCAB. consilium capere=to take counsel. arbitrari=to think,consider.
§ a glorious text of AMBROSIVS MEDIOLANENSIS [333-397 post Chr.] may help you as much as Cicero did above. +He is talking about us becoming rich on the poverty of Jesus.
- When the senate heard Cicero say: 'quem nostrum', what force did they give to "nostrum"? ________ NOT: ________ its reversed:=
- The 'quid-ubi-quos-quid' phrases introduce "indirect questions" expressed in the Subjunctive
- a) According to your list how will these Subjunc. 'sound'? 20% or 80% ___.
- b) What subjunc. Time do you see in the first 4 following verbs? ________.
- c) On what Track does that put you in the 'sequence'? ________.
- d) On what verb here does that 'Track' ultimately depend?
- If "quem...ignorare" is going to mean: 'who does not know'+"arbitraris" worked in!!, you can proceed to render the simple text with historical linguistic accuracy: remembering that the subjunc. Time you indicated signifies what type of action? (give several designations given in class)=
and therefore in your school version you will give at least 4 vernacular meanings to those subjunctives. Now do it!
"Meum ergo paupertas illa patrimonium est et infirmitas Domini mea virtus est. Maluit sibi egere ut omnibus abundaret. Me illi infantiae vagientis abluunt fletus, mea lacrimae illae delicta laverunt. Plus igitur - Domine Iesu - iniuriis tuis debeo quod redemptus sum, quam operibus quod creatus sum" [Expos. Lucae 2,41].
VOCAB. malo,malle,malui=to prefer. vagio,ire=to wail,cry. iniuria,ae-f.=hurt,pain.
+In the same explanation of Luke's gospel, he has a marvelous piece about the thief on the cross with Jesus:
- What is the difference in Latin between: 'ago,agere:= ________' and 'egeo,egere:= ________'
- The subjunctive here: ________, is because of 'ut' which produces a "purpose-final" clause sounding: ________. That subjunctive is on Track ____, because it depends on what verb here? ________, which must be T. ____.
- If the two 'quod' in L.4 will have to mean more or less: "the fact that", then what does that 'quam' in the middle mean and why?
- If 'purpose-final' clauses naturally project things to a goal-end, then you can safely say that: "abundaret" contains what kind of action, as described in class?
- If you do not get the connections of things in L.1-3 correct, you will be asked to leave the course because of carelessness and slop!. In the meantime you can render the whole smooth text, smoothly: (vagiens,ientis=crying,wailing).
- Using your own 'consecutio', you can say without stupid errors:
"Because (cum+subjunc.) we had tasted (degustare) the-very polished [politus,a,um] language of that-famous Ambrose, therefore today his explanation (expositio) of Luke's gospel we have in this our 'ludus' not once but twice, as we shall experience immediately". [N.B. on what Track "we had tasted" and WHY? ________]
- What do you say to millions of air heads who will simply take: "illi+infantiae", "meum+paupertas", "operibus+quod" ???
"Tam cito latroni venia relaxatur et uberior est gratia quam precatio; semper enim plus Dominus tribuit quam rogatur. Ille enim rogabat ut memor sui esset Dominus, cum venisset in regnum suum; Dominus autem ait: 'Amen, amen, dico tibi: hodie mecum eris in paradiso'" [Expos. Luc. 10,121].
VOCAB. venia,ae-f.=pardon,forgiveness. precatio,onis-f.=prayer,petition. latro,onis=thief.
- What other similar forms in Latin did we see like: "mecum"?=
- The subjunc. in L.3 are on what Track? ____. And on what do they depend here for their Track? ________ According to your class notes, what was the last meaning-use of T.2 on Track 2? ________ and HERE what was the last meaning-use of T.4 on Track 4? ________
NOW IF, 'ut' is a purpose-final clause, then its action is going to be ________.
IF, 'cum' here means "when", then the action of 'venisset' could-can be: ________.
- Many fools-idiots around the Latin world, will take 'venisset" as some awful sounding verb in some time. For you it is in T.____, with ALL the possibilities listed in class. Now take out your calendar and begin: "rogabat"=Febr.23. Then what kind of date will you give to: "esset"? ________. And in as much as Jesus and the thief are still on the cross, the "venisset" can NOT NOT possibly mean:=
Therefore it must mean and be:= [explain and give DATE]
- Your own perfect version of the words of Ambrose and Scripture:
Third Experience Latin - Fr. Reginald Foster
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